Are Manassas City Schools Promoting Welfare?
Manassas City School Board Candidate Charles Sutherland says school system has become a welfare project, do you agree with him?
Manassas City School Board Candidate Charles Sutherland told those attending a recent school board candidates forum held by the Grace. E Metz Middle School PTA that he is not a politician and was asked to run for the school board because the Manassas City Public School system has become "essentially a welfare project."
"I will not tell you about the Emperor's new clothes because he doesn't have any," Sutherland said.
He said the incumbents running for reelection to the school board in the May 1 general election have been "talking about the same things" for more than four years and it is time to hear the truth.
"I will tell you the naked truth of what's happening in the school system," Sutherland said.
Sutherland backs up his 'welfare' statement with the following facts:
- More than half of students don't speak the "right proper English" and they are not required to do so
- Forty-one percent of students are officially regarded as having limited English proficiency
- More than 60 percent of MCPS students receive free or reduced lunches
- The school system does not currently enforce the Virginia "original birth certificate" law for student enrollment.
- Greater than 50 percent of student body is Hispanic
With more than 60 percent of the student population receiving free or reduced lunches and breakfast, Sutherland said in a recent intereview, it is time the school board looks at verifying financial need of recipients of free food.
"Many of them, their only qualification is to provide false financial information, which nobody even verifies," Sutherland said. "And the director of food services a few weeks ago proposed giving away $83,000 of free food over the summer to anyone, not just students."
He said despite this, the special education and gifted and talented programs are neglected.
The special education department is "scandalously neglected, even lacking teachers for over a year for our most disadvantaged children," Sutherland said.
"At the other extreme, in this era of politically correct deceit in which we live, supporting gifted and talented students is regarded by many as a subtle form of white racism," Sutherland said.
Despite a $101 million proposed budget and an annual cost of $14,000 per student, nearly the highest in the nation, Sutherland said test scores have declined and the high school has lost its accreditation, because of a low graduation rate.
"Money is wasted," said Sutherland, who is a retired CEO of several companies, author and father of two boys who attend Osbourn High School.
Sutherland said more than 50 percent of the student body is Hispanic and that number increases every year. He said because of this the school board is proposing more than $20 million in future debt for a new building. Still, the school system does not enforce the state's birth certificate laws and programs, he said.
Do you agree with Sutherland that the school system is operating as a welfare program? Tell us why in the comments.
Michele Frantz
10:49 am on Tuesday, April 17, 2012
I would say that his comments reflect more a fear of "those people who are not like me" than anything else. Mr. Sutherland should go back to school and learn compassion, tolerance and generosity. Oh, wait, that's what he's afraid of....... Oh well, at least HIS racism is not subtle.
Robyn M Johnson
11:24 am on Tuesday, April 17, 2012
Michele I walked away with the same impression as you.
Mala
11:45 am on Tuesday, April 17, 2012
That's the same impress I get too. I'd like to know where he gets his stats.
Erin Gibson
11:27 am on Tuesday, April 17, 2012
Hi Michele, thanks for commenting. In an earlier interview, Sutherland said while the city is required by law to provide an equal education to citizens living in the jurisdiction, he said those citizens should be legal. Schools are seeing an increase in funding from both city and state tax payers, couldn't this money be better spent or not needed (i.e. no tax increase) if the school system would simply enforce the state's original birth certificate laws?
Steve Randolph
5:27 pm on Tuesday, April 17, 2012
Erin,
Suggest readers Google:
1) Plyler vs.Doe (1982)
2)Code of Virginia 22.1-3.1
Under Federal law, school boards are not allowed to keep
children from enrolling based on their immigration status.
Original Birth Certificates are requested in Virginia, but
parents may meet that requirement with an affidavit giving
the child's date of birth.
We may not like those regulations, but they are rules
our school system must follow.
Carolyn
10:08 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
It is a matter of tracking NOT denying education
ssmith
5:38 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012
the affidavit that you are speaking of Steve is the paper that is given to all parents when their child is born in a Virginia hospital that acts as a suppliment until an original birth certificate is received. Every child is issued a birth certificate because the hospitals are the ones that apply for them prior to the babys discharge,they are then mailed to the parents home. If VA law says they should be reviewed for enrollment then they it should be enforced, no copy's, only originals to be reviewed for authentic verification!
Erin Gibson
5:37 pm on Tuesday, April 17, 2012
Thanks for the information, Steve.
Mala, I know the stats surrounding the amount of students seeking free and reduced lunch and breakfast are found in the school board budget documents. This is why the received more federal funding to accommodate the increase in the amount of kids applying for free or reduced lunches.
Carolyn
10:13 am on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
How is statistical fact racist?
Not generous? I did not read anywhere that Mr. Southerland wants to deny food to children in true need. Verifying documentation is not cruel unless, of course, you support fraud.
The original birth certificate requirement is not unheard of. It does not imply denying education it is a matter of tracking. As a tax payer I would like full accountability for the money spent. Additionally, this information could be used to gain additional Federal support or entitle us to other resources.
How is Mr. Sutherland not compassionate? I have yet to hear any other candidate consistently raise the issues with the Special Ed department. Advocating for the most at risk and neglected children in our system is FAR from being cold hearted.
We need people on the school board that have the guts to speak their mind and get conversations started. Personally I am tired of going to meetings where members talk in circles because nobody takes a stand.
Take off the rose colored glasses people. The power of positive thinking only gets us so far and it’s time for some tough love.
Erin Gibson
2:39 pm on Wednesday, April 18, 2012
I think these numbers are important because they may shed light on our low literacy scores. Look at it this way, Mr. Sutherland is not saying we need NOT to educate children he is just saying we may need to change what we are doing to accommodate the growing number of young children in the school system or entering the school system who do not speak English. Sutherland suggests making these students stay after school an hour or more with a language coach and I have also heard suggestions at Education Forward meetings to implement a citywide prek program to also help kids learn English before entering Kindergarten. My daughter is in K-5 and there is at least one student who does not speak any English. How is she supposed to pass tests in English when she can't even speak English? A possible contributor to our low test scores? We can't deny students an education but we certainly shouldn't rob them of a quality one either.
ssmith
5:38 pm on Thursday, April 19, 2012
Those who have never experienced rascism themselves are usually the first ones to cry about it. I am the daughter of a Legal Immigrant. My grandmother came here legally for a better life & wanted to be an American. She had no tolerance for those that did not come here to 'live the American dream" & "speak the language" but instead came looking for handouts, because that was to have no selfworth or pride. My mother experienced racism before I was even born-46yrs ago, and she is an educated woman. Mr. Sutherland has some Very Good points, it is VERY unfair that our handicap children that are entitled to help, as well as those that are gifted, can not receive help & guidance because funds are not used as they should & could be. We need new blood on the board that can make things happen and a "Voice" for our special needs children.
Erin Gibson
1:45 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012
Patch is experiencing technical issues. There are supposed to be 14 comments on this article but only 12 are visible. While we work to fix the glitch, I am going to post a comment by Charles Sutherland that he emailed me after he was unable to post it himself.
-by Charles Sutherland
Mr. Randolph's misleading and erroneous comments are obfuscating the issues.
1. Plyler v. Doe, which I heartily support, stipulates that ALL students resident in a jurisdiction must be educated -- not receive special treatment.
2. In # 22.1-3.1, original birth certificates are not merely "requested," but REQUIRED, without which the file is REQUIRED to be turned over to the local police. Based upon FOIA data from the schools and the Police Dept., that law is constantly evaded.
Originally designed to identify children kidnapped, or in custody disputes, etc. since it also reveals the identity of illegal aliens it seems to be violated in the interest of a political agenda. Has Mr. Randolph even seen the 'affidavits' in use by Manassas schools? They are a simplistic embarrassment, providing little information, and can be signed by anyone who happens to be available with a pen. And, since they are in English, and most school documents are in English/Spanish, whoever enrolls some of the "50% Hispanic students" may not even know what they are signing.
Erin Gibson
1:46 pm on Friday, April 20, 2012
-by Charles Sutherland
Mala, stats are public record! How can you accuse if you are ignorant of the facts?
Ms. Frantz et al, it's lamentable that you consider it 'racist' to ascertain information and reduce waste & fraud in order to provide a better education for all children. In psychotherapy your accusation is called "transference," i.e. ascribing one's own maladjusted feelings to someone else, in your case 'reverse racism' (a PC euphemism.)
Steve Randolph
1:40 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
http://www.doe.virginia.gov/students_parents/student_enrollment.shtml
"If a certified copy of the child's birth certificate cannot be be obtained , the
person enrolling the child must submit a sworn statement setting forth the
child's age and explaining the inability to present a certified copy of the
birth record."
Steve Randolph
2:23 pm on Sunday, April 29, 2012
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/24/AR2008092400088.html
Hope Mr. Sutherland reconsiders his plan to use confidential school
records to "reveal illegal immigrants".
LWARE
8:57 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012
Those that are so vocal and "think" they know what is going on or "not" going on in our schools, School Board and City Council members, parents or community members in general need to "walk" in a teachers shoes for only a day before assuming they know what is or isn't being done to properly educate the children in Manassas City. My daughter is a product of the school system and received an excellent education, and that was BEFORE the federal legislation of No Child Left Behind. MCPS has great teachers who do the best they can with the federal guidelines they have to follow and the funds allocated to them. I can't wait for this "new" School Board to get started, the ones I never heard of until the election. They think the Schools need to be fixed? They are looking at one child, not the entire 22 in the classroom. Walk in a teacher's shoes before you start the critisisms. It is the City's and the School's job to educate ALL children. In order to do that, steps must be taken to put the right people in place and to keep them. That means competitive salaries, good benefits and a strong support system. Legal or not, if the paperwork is presented, the children deserve their education, regardless of their ethnicity. It is the School Divisions responsibility to do that. The City Climate has changed and is going to continue to change. The School climate is going to follow suit, like it or not.